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MR.D  Suburban Commuter Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Total posts: 56 Location: Holmfirh |
hi just fitted a zeeltronic vcdi and a cdi rd7 .it will not pull past 5500revs .static at 26.5 put flat curve in still no difference have spoken to borut checked wiring as he says ,still no good put new plugs in and noticed i am getting a very weak spark only just visible but it starts easily the bike is a tuned 370 and im running out of ideas i got to be at cadwell on june 1 just wandered if any of you with zeeltronics fitted had come across this problem. :
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:46 pm
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hybrid Rear-wheel Steering! Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Total posts: 2599 |
I assume you measured your static angle properly before setting it?
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:58 pm
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z1100r Ace of Spades Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Total posts: 4767 Location: Coventry |
Very difficult to diagnose...especially as it runs.. just not well. Might be sod all to do with ignition...but something you've screwed whilst fitting it.
did you wire it so you could interchange with the stock unit....??? guessing not else you would have tried that.
Static Angle is not 26.5....thats approx max advance....static angle should be around 33/34. VCDI/CDI will work fine with that.
Timing is more obvious than not revving, it would pop/fart/get hot and not go properly at all. Even with a flat 10deg curve in mine it revs clean enough to 12,000. I dont think its timing..????
I had a problem once where I set the max advance in my programmed curve to be more than the static value. I seem to remember doing something like you and setting static to 26 and max adv in curve to 30....this does screw things up.
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:36 am
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johnny485Suburban Commuter Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Total posts: 56 Location: croydon |
i have got the same problem on my 485 lc it would not start at static angle of 34 deg but started at 29deg and 30deg and now it wont rev past 6900rpm . i have sent it back to borut and he tested it and found no problems .i put mine back to standard before i put the zeeltronic on and no problems
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Last edited by johnny485 on Thu May 22, 2008 6:47 am; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:34 pm
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MR.DSuburban Commuter Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Total posts: 56 Location: Holmfirh |
hi thanks for your replys last night put the stock cdi back on good blue spark .so i then checked wiring again one of my black wires on cdird7 had a bad connection so put that right and now i got a spark havent ridden it yet will keep you posted z1100r you state static is not 26.5 thats max advance how do you come to this theory .what i did is file stator to max and then fully advance stator which is as i said 26.5 degree .so this is static angle or am i missing something.????
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:59 pm
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johnlc Powerband Master Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Total posts: 797 Location: John O'Groats |
Yes 26.5 degrees is what i ended up with as well after filing stator plate ,valve is different as stator is fixed  p.s my lc goes like stink with 26.5 degrees ,wheelietastic 
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:37 pm
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z1100rAce of Spades Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Total posts: 4767 Location: Coventry |
No sorry....I 'm only talking about 350YPVS or 500.....SEB knows all about LC's...sorry if I led you up the wrong path.. 
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:49 pm
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hybridRear-wheel Steering! Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Total posts: 2599 |
Yeah I don't think its possible to get 34 degrees on the LC stator without A LOT of hacking into the plate.
Can't remember for sure, but I think mine ended up at about 26.5 also.
I'm with Gareth though.. I don't think the problem will be with the Zeeltronic.
By the way, if you're running an LC, why didn't you just stick to the standard CDI and just use the VCDI with standard CDI?
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:57 pm
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SEB4LO All-gear Wheelie! Location: FRANCE - QUIMPER |
i don't remember LC setting , i ll set up another one this WE for a friend
so let's wait until monday 
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:47 am
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Post subject: setting up zeeltronic
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MR.DSuburban Commuter Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Total posts: 56 Location: Holmfirh |
hi all put bike back to original settings i.e. 1.8 timing and original cdi ,went like shit of a shovel .then connected zeeltronic double checked static 26.5 degrees and cheked wiring again . still missfires at 5500 rpm . running short of ideas ?
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:25 pm
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| xen-uno Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Total posts: 845 |
Is the original LC ignition "Lost Spark"? Quick way to determine is if it has 2 spark plug leads coming off 1 coil.
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:31 pm
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johnlcPowerband Master Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Total posts: 797 Location: John O'Groats |
What plugs are you using as vcdi will run better with resistor type plugs
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:39 pm
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