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Post subject: 4L0 Wheel Spacer ID
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p51bombay Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Total posts: 9909 |
On the 4L0 fiche - Plate D8, item #6, p/n 2R6-25377-00-00, can someone confirm if this is the aforementioned part and if this is the spacer which fits in the RH outer (brake side) wheel bearing?
http://home.comcast.net/~p51bombay/Number6.JPG
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:20 am
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crip Mmm, Fully Synthetic! Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Total posts: 1217 Location: West Midlands |
Yep, that looks correct, if a bit rusty....  its not NOS or green.....
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:53 am
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gary-rd-robbo![[RD/RZ Blood Donor]](../img/pipsvip.jpg "RD/RZ Blood Donor")
RD/RZ Blood Donor One-handed Stoppie! Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Total posts: 2331 |
looks like sprocket side inner spacer for the wheel bearing denis...then there is a similar one that goes in the srocket carrier bearing but has a larger shoulder to it.
hope your gonna clean it up before you fit it to your bike....looks as if been kicking around garge floor for 10 years... 
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:12 am
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| p51bombay Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Total posts: 9909 |
| gary-rd-robbo wrote: |
looks like sprocket side inner spacer for the wheel bearing denis...then there is a similar one that goes in the srocket carrier bearing but has a larger shoulder to it.
hope your gonna clean it up before you fit it to your bike....looks as if been kicking around garge floor for 10 years... |
You mean the one that goes on the inner side of the bearing in the cush drive? I think that one is the large one with the double flange - #28 Laid all the parts out and checked them against the fiche and this seems to be the only one I don't have in a baggie  Of course its NLA so will either have to clean one up, or get Tom Mac to do a SS one - still got one wheel to check though - someone kept that one greased so it might be ok.
PS - ain't supposed to be green, that why its rusty 
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:40 pm
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gary-rd-robbo
RD/RZ Blood DonorOne-handed Stoppie! Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Total posts: 2331 |
den its the inner spacer on the wheel bearing on the sprocket side in the wheel...the one in the carrier as ive said is larger and has a larger shoulder!!!...clean it up it will be fine and no one will see it so clean it up.....this part is nla so do not ask how i know!!!!! its def the wheel inner bearing spacer sprocket side that goes inside the wheel and butts up to the spacer in the wheel...its kind of a bodge cos yam didnt have a bearing strong enough with the internal dims to go on the spindle....
carrier is same bearing internal dim and got mine turned down to fit my MISSING one on a bike that was literally running on 2 bearings!!!! brake hub side and carrier one...the wheel bearing carrier side had NO SPACER like the one you posted ....and he wondered why it felt like jelly when he thrashed it...
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:27 pm
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| p51bombay Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Total posts: 9909 |
| gary-rd-robbo wrote: |
den its the inner spacer on the wheel bearing on the sprocket side in the wheel...the one in the carrier as ive said is larger and has a larger shoulder!!!...clean it up it will be fine and no one will see it so clean it up.....this part is nla so do not ask how i know!!!!! its def the wheel inner bearing spacer sprocket side that goes inside the wheel and butts up to the spacer in the wheel...its kind of a bodge cos yam didnt have a bearing strong enough with the internal dims to go on the spindle....
carrier is same bearing internal dim and got mine turned down to fit my MISSING one on a bike that was literally running on 2 bearings!!!! brake hub side and carrier one...the wheel bearing carrier side had NO SPACER like the one you posted ....and he wondered why it felt like jelly when he thrashed it... |
Do you mean the one in the photo or #6 on the fiche? I have all the others new apart from one of the outer spacers between the wheel and swinger. I'm just needing to know what item #6 on the fiche looks like.
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:19 pm
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gary-rd-robbo
RD/RZ Blood DonorOne-handed Stoppie! Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Total posts: 2331 |
between the brake plate and swinger arm??? can piccy u one if needed...
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:24 pm
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| p51bombay Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Total posts: 9909 |
| gary-rd-robbo wrote: |
| between the brake plate and swinger arm??? can piccy u one if needed... |
That's #44 on the fiche now init? I have that one, Tom Mac did me one is SS. Look on the fiche, its number 6, bit hard to see as the number is between the spokes and under the hub in the drawing. From what it looks like it goes brake side between the wheel bearing and the brake plate.
http://home.comcast.net/~p51bombay/D8fiche.jpg
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:47 pm
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gary-rd-robbo
RD/RZ Blood DonorOne-handed Stoppie! Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Total posts: 2331 |
item 6 is the spacer i have described denis....inside wheel bearing sprocket side and same item your posted first picture shows.
now im even more confused...what item do you need and that spacer on the 1st pic IS item 6...this fits in the bearing "2" and goes inside the wheel sproket side not the brake side.
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:27 pm
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| p51bombay Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Total posts: 9909 |
It's item 6 I need, or thought I needed until last night. Stripped a couple wheels to have a look inside and it is indeed on the brake side wheel bearing between the long spacer and the bearing. Had to take two apart as the first one I hit too hard and the bits flew out before I could see where they'd come from 
On a side note, that small stamped steel bit that fits around the long spacer (#5 between the bearings).............what the hell is the purpose of that thing? Grease slinger or just centre up the long spacer? Don't seem to really do anything, got an NOS one regardless. 
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:35 pm
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gary-rd-robbo
RD/RZ Blood DonorOne-handed Stoppie! Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Total posts: 2331 |
yer mate the disc is so to stop the spacer being "lost " inside the wheel.
looks as if item 6 was incorrectly fitted den...my 4l0 wheel didnt have it on brake side but a proper bearing.
item 6 it nla as you know.
the spacers were only on the 4lo wheels /cush drive and not fitted on 4l1 wheels..so looks as if you have 4l0 wheels with the sprocket bearing fitted to brake side..
you get the jist mate have fun.... the other spacer in the cush drive is available and if you machine a lump of the innner long spacer will also fit fine with no problems...guess everyone that knocks out bearings "forgets" to remove this small but vital part....
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:11 am
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| p51bombay Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Total posts: 9909 |
| gary-rd-robbo wrote: |
yer mate the disc is so to stop the spacer being "lost " inside the wheel.
looks as if item 6 was incorrectly fitted den...my 4l0 wheel didnt have it on brake side but a proper bearing.
item 6 it nla as you know.
the spacers were only on the 4lo wheels /cush drive and not fitted on 4l1 wheels..so looks as if you have 4l0 wheels with the sprocket bearing fitted to brake side..
you get the jist mate have fun.... the other spacer in the cush drive is available and if you machine a lump of the innner long spacer will also fit fine with no problems...guess everyone that knocks out bearings "forgets" to remove this small but vital part.... |
So does that disc just "float" in the middle somewhere or to one side? Seems to move freely to either side. I think the reason for the long one not covering the entire span and using the one shown in the photo is so you can get a drift punch in there to knock the bearings out. We only get 350's over here, never actually seen a 250 wheel.
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:17 am
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